i cant get through to him, hes not a noraml person, a normal person would get this but he twists and changes
Fickle is my word for the day
fickle - marked by erratic changeableness in affections or attachments; "fickle friends"; "a flirt's volatile affections" inconstant - likely to change frequently often without apparent or cogent reason; variable; "inconstant affections"; "an inconstant lover"; "swear not by...the inconstant moon"- Shakespeare | ||
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Me: hello |
Venter: hey |
Venter: I'm feeling shitty right now |
Me: tell me about it, im here to listen or help if i can |
Venter: okay well |
Venter: my mom went away on a weekend with her friends for the jewish holiday |
Venter: and it was great without her, stress free, I could do what I want, go where I want, whenever. |
Venter: and when she came back yesterday, I felt suffocated again. |
Venter: I get really bad migraines |
Venter: and I feel like the stress from her, is the reason I get them |
Venter: I don't know why though, it's not like shes a terrible person or anything |
Me: what does she do that stresses you out? |
Venter: When she opens her mouth it just makes me mad or upset |
Venter: Whenever I have a migraine I'm sensitive to light and sound |
Venter: and she just goes about crinkling bags, and walking heavily |
Me: yes i get bad migraines as well |
Venter: they're terrible |
Me: does she do it deliberately? |
Venter: Sometimes I think she does, but I honestly don't know. |
Venter: Then I cover my ears, and she starts yelling at me. |
Me: have you talked to her? |
Venter: She's impossible to talk to. |
Me: do you think she wont listen? |
Venter: Whenever I talk to her about anything serious, it's like I'm talking to a brick wall. |
Venter: she'll listen to what I say, and then say something that has nothing to do with what I just said, |
Venter: Like |
Venter: I told her I was depressed last year, and how I have been for so long |
Venter: and she honestly just said, it happens to everyone, brush it off. |
Me: do you think your mum could be depressed? |
Venter: My mom is so gilded. Our family is so gilded. On the outside we are this perfect family, but on the inside we're falling apart. |
Venter: My mom doesn't want people to know who we really are. |
Venter: I have no idea. |
Venter: I mean if she was depressed don't you think she'd try to help me and herself? |
Me: its very hard for sum one who is depressed to talk about there feelings, and it is very easy for some one who has been depressed for along time to block out all emotion |
Me: you were very strong in confiding inyour mum |
Venter: yeah and now it'll never happen again because she shot me down. |
Me: yea it wasnt very good of her |
Venter: I brought her to this teen depression thing at my school, |
Venter: and afterward I was like, mom what do you think |
Venter: and she looked at me and said, don't you start, there is nothing wrong with you, stop it already. |
Me: do you think that what you told her is to hard for her to deal with |
Venter: I don't know, but still. |
Venter: I have to deal with it everyday! |
Me: yea honestly im not making excuses for her |
Me: im just tryng to find out why |
Venter: I know. |
Me: when you know that it wont hurt so much |
Me: maybe she dosnt have a good relationship with her mum |
Venter: she does though |
Me: and talking about big issues got brushed under the carpet and she dosnt know how to talk to you in that way |
Venter: Maybe. |
Me: u know ur mum, there must be a reason |
Me: however keep talking to her |
Me: i bet she hates herself for not being able to deal with the problems youve bought up |
Venter: my mom quit smoking a year ago |
Venter: and ever since she quit she's be terrible. |
Venter: As if shes bi polar. |
Me: so she has manic highs and depressive lows? |
Venter: One moment she's absolutely happy |
Venter: and if you say something even if it isn't bad |
Venter: she'll flip out. |
Me: it does sound like she has a problem then |
Me: is there something that could have cause it? |
Venter: I'm not sure |
Venter: her dad used to drink a lot and my dad told me that he used to be abusive to her mom |
Venter: and my dad isn't sure if she was every hit or not |
Venter: *ever |
Me: well that could make her feel very unballenced |
Venter: I'm not sure is bi polar is triggered by an event... |
Venter: I'll have to look up on it |
Me: no i think it isnt |
Me: i asked that question to figure out if she was depressed or had bipolar |
Venter: I have terrible anxiety, and I'm almost positive I have some sort of depression. |
Me: how does it effect u? |
Venter: which anxiety or depression? |
Me: if u dnt mind me asking, both |
Venter: well I always nervous, and I get terrible panic attack just started recently. I had two in two weeks, and I felt as if I was being suffocated and that I was going to die. |
Venter: and depression, well |
Venter: When I'm happy it's really not very often, and it doesn't last long at all |
Venter: around this time of year I just get so angsty, upset, and I guess I just hate everything |
Me: panic attacks sound horrible ive watched my sister have them |
Me: i had depression for a long time, and i know what my triggers are |
Venter: depression doesn't really go away though |
Me: no |
Venter: you can go through periods where it's a little better |
Me: it stays untill u figure what caused it |
Venter: but it's always lingering somewhere. |
Me: yes |
Me: it is very difficult |
Venter: even if you know what caused it, it's still there. |
Me: i wish it was more accepted among people |
Venter: I know. |
Me: i think it is becoming better accepted |
Venter: When someone says depression people are all *gasp* |
Me: is your dad some one you can talk to |
Venter: she wants to kill herself right now |
Venter: depends, not really on this topic |
Me: how about just ur mum? |
Venter: Me and my dad talk about mom a lot |
Venter: we hate how she changed |
Venter: and we want her to start smoking again because shes absolutely terrible to be around |
Me: lol that wnt be the answer |
Venter: I know, but god, If you saw her. |
Me: have you both sat down with her and told her that ur worried about her and that you think she needs to accept some help |
Venter: If we did that, she'd go crazy. |
Venter: She hates being teamed up on. |
Venter: Whever my parents make me choose sides and usually my dad's right |
Venter: my mom freaks out. |
Me: yea but she obviously needs some help |
Me: u cant force her |
Venter: she also doesn't believe in medication or therapy |
Venter: so nothing can really help her. |
Me: thats the hardest thing about having someone around whos depressed,they become very selfish |
Me: i have been selfish |
Venter: she wont get either for me, so I doubt she'd get it for herself. |
Venter: i'm very selfish |
Me: then she will have to reach rock bottom |
Venter: shes getting close |
Venter: and so am I |
Me: a low point that makes her think i cnt carry on like this |
Me: u have asked for help and like i said it is gr8 u have done that |
Me: carry on |
Me: u see where your mum is and you dont have to be the same |
Venter: she wont give me help though |
Me: maybe not, she cant, shes to wrapped up in how badshe feels |
Venter: she said you don't need therapy or meds |
Venter: I said but what if I really do? |
Venter: and shes like you don't end of story. |
Me: u will have to help your self, we all have to help ourselfs |
Venter: how? |
Me: only u know what will help you |
Me: i keep myself very busy when i feel depressed |
Me: andthen when i cnt stand that i stay indoors and get more sad, and then i just go fuck this, and for a while i feel better |
Venter: when I'm busy, I get stressed, when I get stressed, I get anxious, when I'm anxious I get panic attacks, when I get panic attack I want to die. |
Me: i really wish id talked to my dr |
Me: u should |
Venter: I'm scared. |
Me: yes |
Me: it is scarry to face ur self |
Venter: What if they find out that I'm |
Me: ? |
Venter: depressed or i have anxiety |
Venter: and then they subscribe me to meds |
Venter: and i feel so guilty because meds and therapy is so expensive |
Me: u dont have to have the meds |
Me: ah ur in america? |
Venter: mhm |
Me: errmm do they not have any free stuff? |
Venter: nope |
Venter: I want to tell someone |
Me: talk to the dr anyway, he might be able to tell u something like a group you can go to |
Venter: but I'm so fucking scared. |
Me: it is not easy |
Me: ur mum is scared to |
Me: that is why she cant talk about it |
Me: what about a teacher? |
Venter: I don't want to burden anyone |
Me: u wnt be |
Me: you are not alone |
Me: alot alot of people feel depressed |
Me: it is something the world needs to talk about more |
Venter: yeah. |
Me: :) |
Me: u can do it |
Me: life can be very hard |
Venter: i'll try |
Venter: thanks |
Me: learn about your self and love it |
Venter: i've got to run now |
Me: ok |
Venter: thanks for everything |
Me: good luck |
Venter: xxx |